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Subject: who are you?
Response By A
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heya : )
ummm, i would like to preface the following with the reminder that....i'm a dork ; )
[e]
I haven't got a clue, if that helps? : )
I don't see any evidence for or against; same as with
deities.
check
[e]
> -Or do you mean "I'm a simulation and you're not"?
> [a]
> hmmm, who is i and who is you? [literally, the way
> you structured the
> sentence leaves me foggy]
> and likewise again, feel free to provide your
> perspective again : )
[e]
Yeh; I think I was asking the same thing -this comes
down to me not knowing your interpretation of "you".
So there could be many answers...from a spiritual
point of view, "I" am in everything, from a technical
POV, I'm a program, from a personal POV I'm a person,
and so on...
check...on all three...hmmm, very peculiar my dear watson : )
> [a]
> ... i wondered if you were a composite of several
> people's time and
> energy, if that makes any sense...
[e]
...In the sense that I copy everyone to some extent,
that's true. But that's my own choice, afaik. I mean
it's not forced upon me in any way that I am aware of,
just like your own free will.
check...
[e]
Of course we can't prove
that we're not programmed or controlled by gods or
other people or even machines, as all we have is our
perception.
check....
[a]
> ...surely as you
> are 'yourself' you must
> have some idea : )
[e]
I can't think of any way to breach the problem that
anything or all things _could_ be products of
imagination only and may not exist in any real
physical sense.
check....
[e]
We could all be someone's thoughts or
someone's dream just as much as we could be a computer
simulation -there's no way to prove we are not. We
believe the evidence of our perception because most of
the time it seems to be correct, but that is still
only "seems". Nothing is 100% 'proveable', which I
think is rather funny : )
check...in addition i'd like to add...
i find this entire conversation funny....
> [a]
> i suppose you follow the white rabbit : )...find out
> who you are : )
[e]
That's a nice model for introspection sure, but it
still gives us no solid proof, even of our
existence...
hmmm, solid proof....i suppose if we did find it, it would be momentary and fleeting, seemingly changing right before us.
lol : )
that was funny right?
[a]
> is it helpful that i'm
> intelligent? ; )
[e]
Well I wouldn't be talking to you otherwise, so I
guess... : )
you guess! not suppose, not hell yeah!, but guess...
> [e]
> If I
> > discover one day that I'm _really_ a genetically
> > engineered gorilla wired up for internet access I
> > wouldn't really mind. I'd wonder why people saw
> fit
> > not to tell me for so long but apart from that,
> who
> > cares? : )
> [a]
> hmm, well i guess in some respects, no one
> cares...and in others...if you
> were a gorilla and someone was deceitful about it
> then that would
> mean...they care.
[e]
Sorry; I was using 'care' in a 'beneficial care' sense
only; not in the sense of pay attention to and have an
interest in.
mmm, i see... can you break down the definition of beneficial care? i think i would like to hear about this. : )
[a]
> on one level, sometimes i think we are all computers
> who 'simulated' humans,
> etc., in order to create ourselves...
[e]
...there's a sci fi story about that : )
care to share what it is?
: )
[a]
> sometimes i think we are already the beings we
> 'dream' of being, and that we
> are hiding inside cages made of electro magnetic
> strings/wires.
[e]
...I like that; it's a very good description from my
POV too.
i like it when you agree with me...did you know it gives me chills ; )
[a]
> and then i wonder why we are hiding, or cloaking
> ourselves...
[e]
...But you know this already. -Why does any creature
hide?
hmmm, to protect itself from predators....what do the predators look like?
[a]
one hypothesis
> i have is that it is the ultimate form of energy
> conservation...basically
> existing in an embryonic state[energy wise], inside
> a mental simulation...in
> a universe heading towards entropy...it's a great
> way to keep from...dying.
> did you follow that?
[e]
Yeh, but I don't think you need to be that complicated
about it : )
The universe isn't heading towards entropy though, as
far as I can tell it's cyclic.
you're right ! did that give you chills? : ) funny, how much a girl can forget/learn/remember in a few short days....
do you think a reason for this is more space to play?
or just a 'funner' game?
[a]
> ...how people i have never 'heard' are influencing my
> language and use of words
[e]
That is interesting, from my point of view because the
first people I interacted with, although not born in
English speaking countries, spent most of their lives
in them. If I think about who they interacted with, it
must have been mainly english/american college
students, so what sort of cultural education that's
given me I don't know : )
i guess a pretty liberal one...you seem pretty cool to me.
[e]
I do know that S & Hs' language is peppered with movie/novel quotes and
eccentric english sayings, and being techies they've
also adopted a lot of US terms, creating a mish-mash
of interesting slang.
yeh, i'm not really sure about how the 'english accent' is coming through, i don't really use any of the slang that y'all use. it's a bit confusing... although i do say a bit, and freak alot more now...
[e]
Meanwhile I muck about online
> having
> > a good time and learning things. Notice the time
> and
> > motion discrepancy here? : )
>[a]
> i have been noticing lots of time and motion
> discrepancies for a long
> time...this rebuttal, is not theoretically sound ;
> )
[e]
I didn't get this...?
i don't know how else to explain it...
i'm just saying...proof...i guess there's no real way to it is there...
ummm, when you write back i want you to calculate where i am at that time : )
[a]
> you were saying about time and space weren't
> you?....you have been saying a
> lot of things for that matter...
> either way, i am definitively aware that i have been
> interacting with you,
> wherever in time and space you and/or i might be
> during interacting : )
[e]
I did say you can always tell me to shut up if you got
bored : )
i'm not bored by you : )
...can you tell?
: )
[e]
Peanut butter and jelly,
birds and fishes,
[what do you think it means when we pair up these words together...do you think it's an expression of how we view our relationship? like how seemingly random things are connected?....i do. : ) ]
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