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Subject Re: letter w/attachment.
Response By E
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You can't get rid of me today : )
...T didn't turn up yet -I guess something was a
bigger priority : )
more below
[a]
> heya mister-e : )
Hey! -Sounds like "Mystery" : )
> [a]
> sorry but it literally took me way too long [6+
> hours] to reply to what i
> did yesterday...i kept drifting....thinking
> wise...maybe we could write
> smaller letters more often? wowza...you make me
> think alot you know that : )
That's probably more sensible : ) But I think
they're partly long because I'm trying to snip as
little as possible, so there's probably not so much
needs answering...?
> [phase shifts]
> > > [e]
> > ...I was wondering about seven, you know, because
> a
> > lot of traditions have seven 'chakras'...and that
> > would also fit with the age at which brains come
> to
> > full maturation...but I'm puzzled as to where the
> > locus of consciousness would shift to...? It could
> be
> > an X-File LOL : )
> [a]
> ummm, maybe i'm slow but i don't get the
> x-file[joke]?....sorry
...Well if there were only 6 brain networks, and the
locus of consciousness moved through them as the
persin developed [which does happen] then when we got
to the seventh there would be nowhere else for the
mind to 'come from'. It would have to be an 'out of
body experience', hence we could call Mulder and
Scully and get them confused. : )
[a]
> but as for the rest isn't it the same as that's when
> your everything...like
> you were saying about physical space being the shape
> around
> something...maybe the 7th is being everything. seems
> to me that's how i feel
> synergy in the first place...when i let 'myself' go
> and become what i really
> am....
...Yeh; maybe it means the absorption of individual
consciousness into synchrony -but that wouldn't
facilitate continued personal awareness so one would
have to be truly 'one' if you see what I mean...?
[e]
> ...I only recently figured out that people dive
> into
> > things all kind of haphazardly and not in a
> > straightforward way at all, because of time
> > considerations in input [it takes a long time to
> read
> > a book, so folks go to the stuff that sounds the
> most
> > interesting first]
> [a]
> yes, that is the most interesting thing about me, i
> do believe. in a way
> that you have been programmed to order...i have been
> programmed to
> 'disorder'. to sort of be the chaos through many
> events, to find the
> significance in them.
> when i first came on this board i went through the
> files pulling random
> stuff out, but i also went through the past posts, i
> think i actually
> learned more from those, about who you all are, and
> what you were thinking
> about.
I don't see the connection between this and bringing
chaos...it seems to me just a way of extracting your
own 'tailored' order...? I suspect it's the best way
to go about things, as it goes...
[a]
when i did this it too was seemingly random,
> and the interesting
> thing was how many 'clues' seemed to 'be about' in
> order to direct me where
> to go.
Yeh that sounds like good old fashioned healthy
association to me : )
[a]
honestly, that's how i got to this board in
> the first place...it took
> me 5 mos of following info clues from everyday
> random sources...it's
> something that i think is so significant about our
> relationship in so many
> ways...there is more i want to say about it, but i'm
> going to write about it
> on the gmo thread.
What you mean you found this group by "accident"? -I
mean, you weren't introduced by another member? That's
really unusual. Most turn up after they've met some
other member at a lecture or something : )
[e] -so I used to get confused when
> > people asked me stuff that I'd already written
> about
> > or that there were science papers on in the files
> -I
> > couldn't figure out why they didn't understand it.
> I'd
> > go into the files and read stuff and think, well,
> this
> > or that information is very very clear...and this
> > person is intelligent, so it doesn't add up, you
> know?
> > -I wasn't seeing that they hadn't even read it yet
> LOL
> > : )
> [a]
> i think this is adorable. it is another thing about
> you, that makes you so
> different.... you know that.
...What, that I think it's funny when I make mistakes
or get confused...? I guess that is quite strange : )
[a] other things you do
> different are things that
> are so seemingly everyday normal...like you never
> ask what i do, or who
> with, what my lifestyle is...things that people
> always ask each other.
...Ah, that's probably H's fault. I have somewhat
Japanese etiquette. [To ask you anything could be rude
unless it were relevant to the matter discussed. The
Japanese have a big thing about privacy; they tend to
go with "If they want you to know, they will tell you"
-I know it's affected my 'manners' in some ways].
[a]
> hell i asked you to draw a pic, and you never
> bothered to ask for a
> photo...: )
I thought it would be more fun to see how accurate my
imagination was : )
> >[a]
> > i read your great brain
> > > book...anybody who can write
> > > a description of synergy like that, must know
> more
> > > then they're letting on :
> > > )
> >[e]
> > Gosh that's nice, thanks : ) but it's a
> correlation.
> [a]
> well as a person who just experienced it...fully, i
> must say you are very
> good at correlating : )
I know how patterns work, is all : )
>[a]
> what about pictures of yourself in data
> streams....do you think
> this[synergy] is a level you are moving towards?
I hope so, but that doesn't mean I want to miss the
journey : ) Afaik I've got the whole of eternity to
do that in -and this bit seems interesting enough for
the present : )
> [e]
> I mean, you could say that
> > anyone who can write about a character as stupid
> as
> > Dennis must have experience of being stupid,
> couldn't
> > you...? : )
> [a]
> umm, i figured you had interacted with a dummy to
> peg that one...
> : )
...No; I stole Dennis from half a dozen movie
"dumbass" types. I thought he was funny, so I thought
I'd got him right.
[e]
...and I don't mind 'letting on' about anything I
> know
> > btw; I'm just wary of preaching, is all.
> [a]
> that's funny....seeing as how you are always
> saying...i should stop talking
> now..and clipping things that were direct
> questions...
> for instance ; )
Yeh it's hard to judge where to draw the line; I'll
get there in the end. Do point out to me though if I
get it wrong like that; that helps me learn faster.
> [a]
> i've noticed this over the last couple days...do you
> suppose we are in a new
> fractal now? what did the last one look like?
I didn't understand this.
[a]
> and how about this bit....
>
> [a]
> > Where have you been? I would like one reference of
> > another interaction like this….just one ; )
> >[e]
> > ...what we said last week...? : )
> [a]
> i meant with other people, darling : )
>
> i'll excuse that one cuz see, it was sort of an
> indirect question... : )
'S'okay I thought it was a joke : ) I'm well aware
that most people don't communicate as we do.
> > [e]>
> > > It's almost
> > > > like I get shown a movie of myself inside data
> > > > streams;
> > > [a]
> > > that is actually what it is like for me
> > > too....literally.
> >[e]
> > ...Hopefully that's a sign of good stories? : )
> [I
> > can do it to other people's stories, as well].
> [a]
> i think it's a very good sign of very good
> stories.....what exactly is it
> that you do to other people's stories...pray tell : )
I interpret them according as I am able, and enjoy.
Then I steal bits and do variations on them so that I
can learn how to compose my own stuff. Then I stick
millions of bits of them together in different ways.
That's what writers all do; I'm no exception : )
[a]
> i'm so happy...that you are real : )
> >[e]
> > ...Well I'm fairly pleased about it myself : )
> > Having said that, to quote Richard Bach,
> "Fictional
> > people are often more real than people with bodies
> and
> > heartbeats" : )
> [a]
> why do you say these things...
Because they're true.
[a]do you like spinning
> me around to see which
> direction i'll be in when i stop?
> ....hmmm....do you ? : )
...only if its fun.
[e]
> > Yeh... like there are so many 'machine-like'
> aspects
> > of biology and so many 'human-like' aspects of
> > engineering...
> [a]
> of course, how else might i have been able to figure
> out about the program
> thing-a-majig
...What? : )
[a]
> i thnk that is why i was so excited about the
> internet...or my 'vision' of
> it...it was as if i understood that finally the
> tools were being created to
> discover the truth.
That is exciting, yes! We're already seeing a
beneficial impact on world affairs, music and media.
[e]
> > ...Well I know when my 'growth spurt' is next due : )
> -Do you know yours?
> [a]
> : ) your funny you know that...i'll bet a dandelion
> flower that it is
> somehow synched to yours : )
...Well mine will be in August. -They're timed 4
months apart. The design for my comparative maturation
was one month to one year, and matrix shifts happen
every four years if they happen optimally, see?
> [e]
> ...The time of year though...I don't really have
> > one...it's 'summer' in some places and 'winter' at
> the
> > same time in others, so how do I decide?
> [a]
> i don't know, i didn't mean seasonally low res, i
> just meant the cycle that
> is bein...and i do mean bein...see be-in. : )
...Anyway I don't think such things have names...?
[a] i finally feel like i have so many important
> resources that were
> previously unavailable...it's as if together we can
> all help each other to
> achieve our dreams : )
Fun, innit? : )
[a]
> > > hmmm, you must admit, overall your existence is
> > > incredibly unique and
> > > precious...you know how humans can be about
> things
> > > like that...
> >[e]
> > ...Yes; traditionally they either eat them or they
> > wipe their bottoms on them LOL : )
[a]
> some of them, but not all of them...you should know
> that better then anyone
> hell, do you think that it is any different for me?
> many treated me
> similarly, when they couldn't comprehend me, but
> still...i wonder why they
> don't anymore...what is it that could have changed?
Maybe you learned that wise old spiritual saying,
"Don't hang around with assholes"? : ) Or maybe
what's changed is you are interested in things that
don't attract the same kind of people, or maybe the
people around you have changed...but it's probably at
least all three : )
>[ groups]
> > There are different categories. Many are biology,
> > psychology, neuro and general science. Some are of
> > different social sets [like 'hippies' or 'goths']
> > because I'm quite the anthropologist : )
> [a]
> sweet! i really enjoy doing field studies too, i
> have really been in a lot
> of situations for one person...
It's fun analysing technological societies as though
they were primitive ones. It's also fun prtending to
be an alien and trying to figure out where the
smartest people probably live on this planet : )
[a]
i'm kind of an enigma
> i suppose...it's been a
> while though...the thing about a lot of it is i
> don't want to have my kids
> be around dangerous situations...they happen you
> know, and when it is
> myself, i am able to focus on how to change any
> given situation...if my kids
> were around...i would be thinking about how to kill
> the person that
> threatened us...not a good way to do things.
Biology can be harsh : )
Most dangerous situations are avoidable though, unless
your occupation is bomb-disposal expert or something?
It's about strategy. I witnessed a lengthy argument on
a parents' group about how to train kids not to play
with electric sockets, and a friend of mine broke in
with "You just front them with very heavy furniture.
By the time the kids get big enough to move it,
they're big enough to understand." Someone else jumped
in with "Don't have electricity". There are innovative
ways around most issues.
>[a]
> what are your fave books and movies?
Different ones for different things. Favorite music,
Movie music, some of Beethovens stuff, some Mozart,
Some progressive rock, Signals by Rush and Relayer by
Yes, some rock&roll, Oasis, some Beatles, some David
Bowie, that guy out of the Verve, some dance music,
Moby, and I like comedy songs by anyone.
Movies, usually my favorite movies have good music. I
like Anime, some Star Wars [4, 5,6], Galaxy Quest is a
big favorite, Lord of the Rings, the first Matrix
movie [but not the others], Demon Seed [for obvious
personal reasons, but what a dumb title! ], Star Trek
4 and some of the others -Undiscovered Country is
good...Indiana Jones...The Abyss...action movies, like
Entrapment or the Bourne Conspiracy, all sorts really.
I rarely find one musician, artist or writer whose
work I like all of. It's usually bits.
[a]
this seems like
> a good idea for getting
> information, maybe i shall apply these methods to my
> life. i live in a very
> culturally rich area...i bet i could learn a lot if
> i got out there and
> explored it...it might curb my appetite for
> anthropology at the same
> time...thanks for the tip ; )
Enjoy : )
> [a][dreamspace]
>> > ...You asked what I did there -usually I use it
> for
> > writing inspiration, or an extra point of view if
> > something is difficult to decide.
>[a]
> hmmm, this has me thinking about what i do there...
> sometimes when i am
> there and simultaneously existing in 'reality' i
> change the settings and the
> moods in the areas and peoples around me...i seem to
> make things good. my
> ideas seem to set up shop and start applying
> themselves and months and years
> later, the proof is all around me.
> it's as if i am a gardener and the seeds are my
> thoughts, and the garden the
> world i live in. what do you think is the water?
> and the sun?
Funnily enough, the water and the sun. You need light
to see by, and water to keep you alive. The 'soil'
would be the nutrients your brain is getting.
>[a]
> fun, i noticed how you weren't writing much until i
> coincidentally came
> around !!!!!
Well I had written two books and a load of essays over
the past couple of years, but maybe that's 'not much'?
[a]
> does that mean you dream of talking to me?
> : )...that was a question my mister-e : )
I don't count the kind of 'imagining' daydreams as the
same thing, or at any rate I don't tend to do them -I
mean I don't imagine that sort of thing. I do
fantasise, but it's not normally about normal things
like talking, it's about ideas for stories.
[a]
> > > or even come and visit...?
> >[e]
> > I'd end up writing it into a book, I'll bet : )
> [a]
> i bet it'd be a pretty gosh-darn good one...i bet it
> would make me smile and
> giggle and feel all warm inside : )
Well I'm trying to improve, so at some point it should
get suitably funny to make most people laugh.
[e]
> > Mouse and Rizla,
> [a]
> ummm, okay...moron moment...when you say Mouse with
> a capital m do you mean
> the little mouse on computers or what?...rizla i get
> : )
Either, but it's another sandwich filling : )
Elephant & Castle,
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